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- From: dmj@genie.geis.com
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 06:26:00 UTC
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Subject: Hello everyone...
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- X-Genie-From: DMJ
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-
- It is with a certain trepidation that I post here. I subscribed to
- this list about a week ago, and in that time the list has accumulated
- almost 130 messages. I have to wonder if, while this standardization
- effort isn't well-intended, that you've scared off many would-be
- participants with the volume of mail here. (I also have to wonder if
- you don't have anything _else_ to do. ;-)
-
- [Time passes.]
-
- Just finished reading all those messages. Sheesh. A few things I'd
- like to point out, in case anyone is interested...
-
- 1. Some folks on this list *pay* for the mail. It's *really*
- irritating to see an _entire_ message quoted in a response, when
- quoting just ONE LINE will do. If you're going to take the time to
- respond, why don't you take the time to figure out which portion of
- the message sums up what you're responding to, and quote just that
- part (please)? Anyone who is following the list will probably be
- able to tell what it is you're discussing. In the same vein, is it
- really necessary to have 10-line signature blocks?
-
- 2. Is it absolutely necessary for everyone to respond with an "I
- agree to this" message (which I've seen quite a bit of)? If you're
- not going to add something useful to the topic being discussed, why
- answer?
-
- Okay, enough steam vented. There were a few things discussed this
- past week that I thought I'd like to comment on.
-
- - ??????.SYS
-
- It has been suggested by more than one person that this file be used
- as more than a keyboard shortcut configuration file. As long as only
- "global" information is being stored here, that's fine--but any
- application-specific information should NOT be stored in a system-wide
- configuration file.
-
- I also dislike the idea of _yet_another_ file sitting in the root
- directory of my boot partition. I have too many files there as it is,
- because software refuses to intelligently look elsewhere for the
- files. I would not be opposed to some environmental variable being
- used to define a path where configuration files could be kept;
- SHORTCUT.SYS (or whatever) could be placed there, and
- application-specific configuration files could be placed there too.
-
- And I think .SYS is a bad extension for this file. Keep in mind that
- this is something the _user_ will be editing. Don't scare them away!
- Every time I see a .SYS file, I think of CONFIG.SYS (from DOS),
- ASSIGN.SYS (from GDOS), or driver .SYS files (which aren't
- user-editable files). To me, .CNF or .INF would be a better choice.
-
- (And when you're discussing what goes in this file, don't forget that
- the user has to be able to figure out how to construct it! Please,
- just because it makes sense to a programmer doesn't mean it will make
- sense to the average user--and that IS your target here, isn't it?)
-
- - Why have a standard, if you have a key-definition file.
-
- I think Tim Miller asked this question. Personally, I think it's a
- valid question. IF we come up with a standard key-definition file,
- this provides the user with a way to redefine any key they like--for
- any program they like. Why should you, or anyone else, tell me what I
- should use as my "default"--when any user who cares to will already
- have default keys selected, and my program would read and use these
- keys *automatically* if the key-definition file is present? (I do not
- ask this to be antagonistic; I'm asking a sincere question.) Not to
- mention the fact that if I can't find some mnemonic that helps me
- remember a keyboard shortcut, it isn't a "shortcut": it's work.
- CTRL-U doesn't mean a damn thing to me, but CTRL-W sure does.
-
- Also, when you quote something is "standard", remember there are lots
- of different "standards". I'd wager 99% of the US Atari users don't
- care one bit about what the German standard for keyboard shortcuts
- are... and like me, if they can't find something that helps them
- remember the keyboard shortcuts, it won't be helping them--it will be
- hindering them.
-
- - Wasting a cookie jar slot...
-
- Somebody mentioned a cookie in the cookie jar would be "wasting a
- slot". Wasting an 8-byte slot? Was this a serious comment? The
- cookie jar can be expanded at any time; Atari documented how to do
- this when they documented the cookie jar in the first place. Not only
- that, but I've always found the cookie jar to be an immensely useful
- tool in finding pointers to software's internal data structures or
- obtaining system-wide information. I think it's a much "cleaner"
- approach than many methods I've seen for obtaining this kind of
- information.
-
- Well, that should do it for now. I hope the volume on this list stays
- at a manageable level--otherwise I will unsubscribe. And if I'm not a
- subscriber, I seriously doubt I'll be following any standard
- "accepted" by the group.
-
- -+- Damien M. Jones -+- dmj software -+- dmj@genie.geis.com -+-
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